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Towards the end of the battle, Sheffield and Jamaica briefly engaged Lutzow. If Admiral Burnett had decided to continue the engagement could the Lutzow have been sunk (assuming a rendezvous with other...

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Michael wrote:Could she have been sunk by gunfire? - probably no.Being sunk by gunfire was a rare occurrence in WW2.   Unless you penetrate a magazine, the best you can to is pummel the enemy until he...

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Ersatz Yorck wrote:Tom wrote:I know RN cruisers where equipped with torpedos, but, for the life of me can't remember a cruiser ever using them successfully against a fast(ish), maneuvering target....

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Gyros malfunctioning. Some subs used to dive deeper after firing in case of boomeranging. IIRC one US sub is thought to have been lost this way. Ian S.

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ICS wrote:Gyros malfunctioning. Some subs used to dive deeper after firing in case of boomeranging. IIRC one US sub is thought to have been lost this way. Ian S.Thanks for that interesting bit of...

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Brazen wrote:Paul Lakowski wrote:Lutzow's belt armor had 50mm plate plus inner 45mm torpedo bulkhead. To penetrate both would require penetration over 4". So that is unlikely beyond 8-10,000 yards....

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Lutzow was less well protected than AGS, and Sheffield and Jamaica were better protected than any of the cruisers at River Plate, and had 50% more guns than Ajax and Achilles.

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At 12,500 yards the 6" British guns could penetrate the upper 80mm belt but would have been stopped by the 45mm torpedo bulkhead.  However a hit a little lower would penetrate the 50mm lower belt with...

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Sheffield and Jamaica better protected? a think there is little difference and not always for the Sheffield and Jamaica. had 50% more of Ajax and Achills but there was also Exeter with their 8 inch...

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Roughly 18 - 6" hits were scored on GS. This equates to about 27 potential 6" hits on Lutzow. That is a lot of disabled ammo hoists, damaged optics, cut wiring, potential fires and potential hull...

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Vincenzo wrote:Sheffield and Jamaica better protected? a think there is little difference and not always for the Sheffield and Jamaica. had 50% more of Ajax and Achills but there was also Exeter with...

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Any comparison of volume shells fired ignores the realities of the two battles. Plate was wide open running gun fight that happened over time with good visibility. Plenty of chances for prolonged...

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USSInidiana wrote:Vincenzo wrote:Sheffield and Jamaica better protected? a think there is little difference and not always for the Sheffield and Jamaica. had 50% more of Ajax and Achills but there was...

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Vincenzo wrote:USSInidiana wrote:and at what range did these seperate battles occur?i don't understand your question. Ajax, Achilles and Exeter were in the same battle.He meant that the Barents sea...

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PhilJD wrote:Vincenzo wrote:USSInidiana wrote:and at what range did these seperate battles occur?i don't understand your question. Ajax, Achilles and Exeter were in the same battle.He meant that the...

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Paul Lakowski wrote: Over 3/4 hour Hipper got several near misses showered DD Achates with splinters and fractured hull plates. Then Hipper locked on the DD Onslow and several straddles showered her...

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The comparison of volume of hits was presented as a good example of the potential for much more damage to be inflicted on Lutzow, due to the greater number of guns she was facing compared to GS, as...

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ikeda wrote:The comparison of volume of hits was presented as a good example of the potential for much more damage to be inflicted on Lutzow, due to the greater number of guns she was facing compared...

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Ikeda i'm not agree there was only 2 guns more 24 vs 22, and 1 target less, if there was not the difference in weather i'm of the opinion that for the armoured ship is with a best situation. the...

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Onslow, Amazon (UK) list 10 copies of Pope's book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/73-North-The-Battle-Barents/dp/1590131029 as to your stepfather's stepfather, try this site...

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Vincenzo wrote:PhilJD wrote:Vincenzo wrote:USSInidiana wrote:and at what range did these seperate battles occur?i don't understand your question. Ajax, Achilles and Exeter were in the same battle.He...

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